{"id":2571,"date":"2015-12-08T19:00:23","date_gmt":"2015-12-08T19:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/?p=2571"},"modified":"2015-12-10T19:59:29","modified_gmt":"2015-12-10T19:59:29","slug":"a-ravpower-usb-ismart-battery-doesnt-like-low-loads","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/2015\/12\/a-ravpower-usb-ismart-battery-doesnt-like-low-loads\/","title":{"rendered":"A Ravpower USB iSmart battery doesn&#8217;t like low loads"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have one of these Ravpower iSmart USB batteries, and it works a treat when used as the manufacturer intended\u00a0 &#8211; to power a mobile phone or an iPod (4th gen touch in my case). No complaints whatsoever.<\/p>\n<p>I constructed a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/2015\/12\/gps-serial-receiver-for-kenwood-th-d7\/\">remote GPS module<\/a> with MAX232 RS232 chip, and all this wants to run off 5V\u00a0 &#8211; the MAX232 is specced at 4.5V to 5.5V, the GPS is probably more tolerant. So the obvious thing to do is to cut off a USB cable, use the USB A plug and wire the power to my device from this. No need for a regulator, job done, and indeed the GPS fires up. Dandy. No need for 5V regulators, no need to mess about with undervolt cutoff, 5V power straight out of the box, what&#8217;s not to like?<\/p>\n<h4>An intelligently managed battery<\/h4>\n<p>The USB battery gives me a USB chargeable device and integrated power management, you can&#8217;t overcharge these or run them flat, and as someone who has just trashed a LiPo battery by leaving it connected overnight and flattening it, I appreciate that thought. Until I find out that<\/p>\n<h4>iSmart is too darn smart<\/h4>\n<p>and decides my device isn&#8217;t drawing enough power and pulls the plug after a couple of minutes. Damn. My GPS draws a hefty 50-60mA, depending on whether the unbelievably bright LED the Chinese makers decided to fit is on or not.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2573\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2573\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/1512_draw_PC082979.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2573\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/1512_draw_PC082979-550x413.jpg?resize=550%2C413\" alt=\"a good 60mA current draw is not enough for iSmart, it seems\" width=\"550\" height=\"413\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/1512_draw_PC082979.jpg?resize=550%2C413&amp;ssl=1 550w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/1512_draw_PC082979.jpg?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/1512_draw_PC082979.jpg?resize=624%2C468&amp;ssl=1 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 85vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2573\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">a good 60mA current draw is not enough for iSmart, it seems<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>so we aren&#8217;t talking about some micropower application. There is much discussion and complexity associated with providing a smart-ish but dumb (in not having a microcontroller) USB charging socket, which <a href=\"https:\/\/learn.adafruit.com\/minty-boost\/icharging\">involves connecting resistors to the data lines<\/a> of the output socket, but there&#8217;s not so much on what do I have to look like to draw power from a smart battery. Maxim have quite a bit <a href=\"https:\/\/www.maximintegrated.com\/en\/app-notes\/index.mvp\/id\/4803#5\">more on what a charger looks for<\/a>, and I tried their trick of putting a couple of 27k (must be &gt;24k) resistors to ground, with no success.<\/p>\n<p>So it&#8217;s probably back to the simplicity of four NiMH AAs and a 500mA fuse. At 1800mAh I&#8217;m good for 30 hours runtime. Which stinks for a general purpose GPS but is good enough for me.<\/p>\n<h4>ISmart is well suited for a Raspberry Pi<\/h4>\n<p>The new Raspberry Pis (Raspberry Pi 2 Model B+ v1.1 in my case) with the new switching regulators drop power significantly when you do <strong>sudo halt<\/strong> to power down. This works a treat with the Ravpower which pulls the plug entirely and depowers everything, includig the static LED, all you need to do to restart would be to bump the power supply &#8211; a NC relay in the 5V line pulsed for half a second would restart it and only draw relay power for half a second. I&#8217;ve only tested this by pulling out the USB connector and plugging it back in, but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.raspberrypi.org\/documentation\/hardware\/raspberrypi\/schematics\/\">earlier models of the Pi at least don&#8217;t have anything on the data pins<\/a> of the power socket, these are floating. There are no obvious switches in the Ravpower USB sockets to reset the outputs.<\/p>\n<p>The Pi2 ModelB+ <a href=\"http:\/\/raspi.tv\/2015\/raspberry-pi2-power-and-performance-measurement\">draws 230mA and up<\/a>, which is enough to keep the iSmart outputs active, it seems.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have one of these Ravpower iSmart USB batteries, and it works a treat when used as the manufacturer intended\u00a0 &#8211; to power a mobile phone or an iPod (4th gen touch in my case). No complaints whatsoever. I constructed a remote GPS module with MAX232 RS232 chip, and all this wants to run off &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/2015\/12\/a-ravpower-usb-ismart-battery-doesnt-like-low-loads\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A Ravpower USB iSmart battery doesn&#8217;t like low loads&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2572,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[57,10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2571","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-electronics","category-raspberry-pi"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/1512_ravpower_PC082977.jpg?fit=1024%2C519&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5aOO7-Ft","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2571","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2571"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2571\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2609,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2571\/revisions\/2609"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2572"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2571"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2571"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2571"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}