{"id":2209,"date":"2015-03-08T18:44:58","date_gmt":"2015-03-08T18:44:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/?p=2209"},"modified":"2015-03-09T00:40:16","modified_gmt":"2015-03-09T00:40:16","slug":"the-texas-lp2950-oscillates-as-an-adjustable-regulator","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/2015\/03\/the-texas-lp2950-oscillates-as-an-adjustable-regulator\/","title":{"rendered":"The Texas LP2950 oscillates as an adjustable regulator"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Nowhere in the <a title=\"PDF\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ti.com\/lit\/ds\/symlink\/lp2950-33.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">datasheet <\/a>does Texas tell you &#8220;hey use this fixed regulator as an adjustable&#8221;. However, I&#8217;m used to being being able to do that with the venerable 78XX series &#8211; indeed Texas tell you that you can do that with the <a title=\"78L05 PDF\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ti.com\/lit\/ds\/symlink\/lm78l05.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">78L05 datasheet<\/a> in Fig 14.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2210\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2210\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_78l05.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2210\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_78l05.png?resize=500%2C259\" alt=\"Adjustable 78l05. bear in mind the shocking Iq of 3mA that'll stand you up an extra 3V if resistor R2 is 1k, keep 'em low...\" width=\"500\" height=\"259\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2210\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Adjustable 78l05. Bear in mind the shocking Iq of 3mA that&#8217;ll stand you up an extra 3V if resistor R2 is 1k, keep &#8217;em low&#8230;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Given that there&#8217;s an adjustable variant of the LP2950 that appears on the same datasheet (the LP2951) I laid out a PCB and being the lazy sort I am I assumed that since I was using a load of these parts in their 3.3V KY5033 variant, where I wanted an 8V stabilised voltage for an audio mic amp sourced off a 12V supply I can simply do the LM317 trick, drop in a couple of resistors from the output to ground and the ground pin to real ground, job done.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2215\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2215\" style=\"width: 270px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_2950_adj.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2215\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_2950_adj.png?resize=270%2C224\" alt=\"what I planned...\" width=\"270\" height=\"224\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2215\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">what I planned&#8230;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For this I made R1 6k8 and R2 10k.I expected an output voltage of 3.3+3.3\/6800*10,000=8.2V or near enough. I screwed up labelling the o\/p 10V, mistakes happen&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>What does that look like then?<\/p>\n<div style=\"float: auto;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/0sFTuPIHZpE?feature=player_detailpage&amp;rel=0\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>Oy vey, about 4V of massive oscillation (I&#8217;m using 10x probes). At least it&#8217;s centred on the right value-ish. Let&#8217;s take that output capacitor out<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_lp2950_open.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2212\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_lp2950_open.jpg?resize=481%2C358\" alt=\"1503_lp2950_open\" width=\"481\" height=\"358\" \/><\/a>Looking good, only 1V of oscillation, now at 370kHz or thereabouts.<\/p>\n<p>So if you come here from Google wanting to know why the LP2950 doesn&#8217;t work as an adjustable reg, now you know. There is a tiny clue in the datasheet in the ground current variation<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_2905.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2213\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_2905.png?resize=480%2C90\" alt=\"LP2950 variation in ground current with output current\" width=\"480\" height=\"90\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>which varies by two orders of magnitude with a load current variation of 1000. This will be impressed upon R2, varying the target voltage &#8211; as more current charges the capacitor the target voltage will rise, then ease off as it is charged, making a handy relaxation oscillator.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s another clue that the output cap can give interesting results in this line<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2218\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/1503_2950_cap.png?resize=480%2C47\" alt=\"1503_2950_cap\" width=\"480\" height=\"47\" \/><\/p>\n<p>which actually specifies a ESR range, rather than less is better<\/p>\n<p>No criticism of Texas&#8217; product implied &#8211; these are great little fixed voltage regs with a low quiescent current and are my goto device for running 3.3V devices off a 5V rail because of that superb dropout voltage of 600mV max, across the entire range of load current and -40 to 125\u00b0C which is easily in spec off a 4.75V min 78L05. It&#8217;s just one less thing to worry about. Im future I won&#8217;t be a doofus and try and use one where a <a title=\"LM317L datasheet \" href=\"http:\/\/www.ti.com\/lit\/ds\/symlink\/lm317l-n.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">LM317L <\/a>is called for \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nowhere in the datasheet does Texas tell you &#8220;hey use this fixed regulator as an adjustable&#8221;. However, I&#8217;m used to being being able to do that with the venerable 78XX series &#8211; indeed Texas tell you that you can do that with the 78L05 datasheet in Fig 14. Given that there&#8217;s an adjustable variant of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/2015\/03\/the-texas-lp2950-oscillates-as-an-adjustable-regulator\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Texas LP2950 oscillates as an adjustable regulator&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[57],"tags":[302,303,301],"class_list":["post-2209","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-electronics","tag-ky5033","tag-ky5050","tag-lp2950"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5aOO7-zD","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2209","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2209"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2209\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2224,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2209\/revisions\/2224"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2209"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2209"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.richardmudhar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2209"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}